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Listen! dOne time to Tallis about the latter s failure to convince runaway wife Morgan to come back to himI m getting ahead of the story I should get back and properly introduce the actors before commenting on their foibles Briefly the novel starts with Rupert a high ranking government official and his stay at home wife Hilda celebrating the 20th anniversary of their steady and slightly boring marriage It s one of those elusive hot summerays in London and the couple gossips extensively about their guests as they sample liberaly from the House of Cards drinks cabinet We learn that Hilda s sister Morgan is expected to return soon from the United States where she had a torrid affair with Julius a former school colleague of Rupert Their son Peter is living out with Morgan s abandoned husband Tallis while Rupert s brother Simon is expected to join them in the company of his significant other Axel another mate from Rupert and Julius schoolays At this point I recommend a spreadsheet and some colored markers in order to keep track of who is involved with whomTo make it easier I would say the novel is a cross between two literary classics A Midsummer Night Dream by Shakespeare and Les Liaisons Dangereuses by Pierre Choderlos Wild Child de Laclos I am not ualified to comment inetail on the connections as I am only familiar with the movie versions of these stories but I see Rupert and Hilda as Oberon and Titania around whom the others gravitate Morgan as the Maruise Beowulf And The Illusion Of History de Merteuil and Julius as theisruptive malicious Puck Vicomte e Valmont This artificiality theatricality is in fact the one major complaint I could level at the novel In order to touch on as many aspects of the subject as possible Murdoch uses a sandbox approach with the characters acting sometimes as puppets whose strings are in their creator s hands and who move in predetermined patterns that puts them in exactly the situation that illustrates best the point Murdoch wants to make With the same goal in mind all the characters are upper class highly educated and introspective able to analyze their emotions and extremely articulate about expressing them What saves the characters as people is the level of etail of Murdoch analysis and the real pain they go through as they try to reach out and touch one another I had some issues with Peter and Simon who are a little too stereotypical in their roles one as a teenager refusing his parents love and the other as the effete promiscuous flashy White Apples and the Taste of Stone dresser gay interiorecorator Peter Peter The Named (Guardians of Time, dorink something not just water It would Terreur dans l'Hexagone: Gense du djihad franais do you good What sort of good You people allrink in order to escape from reality I happen to like reality I m staying with it not taking off for the land of make believe Peter again I m afraid nowadays it s you young people who are cynical and we middle aged ones who are idealistic We aren t cynical And you aren t idealistic You re just a lot of self centred habit ridden hedonists Simon Simon was greedy for the surface texture of his life whose substance he luxuriously munched second after second as if it were a fruit with a thin soft furry exterior and a firm sweet fleshy inside Simon loved times of World War 3 day eatingrinking looking touching All his experiences were ceremonies He liked the slow savouring of moments of pleasure and he engineered his life to contain as many of these as possibleIt sometimes seemed to him that all his enjoyments were similar in kind though not in Hire Me, Hollywood! degree whether he was stroking a cat or a Chippendale chair orrinking a Solomon Kane (Solomon Kane dry martini or looking at a picture by Titian or getting into bed with Alex Murdoch most reliable characters for presenting her position on the major themes of the novel are Rupert and Julius Rupert is actually writing a philosophical book about the power of love and positive thinking Julius thinks Rupert is conceited and misguided and sets up toemonstrate that his own cynical approach to love is closer to reality Rupert Love is the last and secret name of all the virtues Julius All human beings fly from consciousness Drink Love Art are methods of flight Philosophy is another one perhaps the subtlest of them all Even subtler than theology One can attempt to be truthful Julius The attempt has meaning About these things no The Venerable Bede observed that human life was like a sparrow that flies through a lighted hall in one oor and out the other What can that poor sparrow know Nothing These attempted through a lighted hall in one oor and out the other What can that poor sparrow know Nothing These attempted are tisues of illusion Theories Julius again Human beings are roughly constructed entities full of indeterminacies and vagueness and empty spaces Driven along by their own private needs they latch blindly onto each other then pull away then latch again Their little sadisms and their little masochisms are surface phenomena Anyone will Subete No Shigoto O Kami Ichimai Ni Matomete Shimau Seirijutsu do to play their roles They never really see each other at all There is no relationshipear Morgan which cannot uite easily be broken and there is none the breaking of which is a matter of any genuine seriousness Human beings are essentially finders of substitutes and so Julius proceeds to put his theories into practice by sabotaging the relationships he sees as conceited and insincere He uses Simon s insecurity Axel s reticence Morgan s self centeredness Rupert s idealism Peter s teenage rebelliousness Hilda s complacency The comedy that entertained me so much in the beginning of the novel gains tragic immensions as the victims of Julius seem unable to escape his evilish machinations Jealousy rears its ugly head and reason flies out the window Julius Mix up pity and vanity and novelty in an emotional person and you at once produce something very much like being in love Murdoch Rebel Hell (The Hidden Talents Trilogy, defines the ensuing chaos as a muddle the very opposite of order and clarity the very thing that Englishmen find abhorrent I believe I m uoting E M Forster on this Life is a mess and good intentions are not enough to see us through I ve been uoting most of the characters in the book it s time to shine the spotlight on Axel Eating reveals the characteristic grossness of the human race and also the in built failure of its satisfaction We arrive eager we stuff ourselves and we go awayepressed and isappointed and probably feeling a bit ueasy into the bargain It s an image of the ecu in human existence A greedy start and a stupefied finish Waiters who are constantly observing this cycle must be the most Endless Possibility (Rush, disillusioned of men Pretentiousrivel or astute observation As a seriously overweight person I cannot refute this at least as far as expectations and fullfilment in the matter of food are concerned There is lot to Wolf of Stone (Gypsy Healers discover in the book than just troubled relationships and selfeceiving individuals I could go on at length about age and The Beak Doctor disillusionment as seen through the eyes of Leonard the one actor who isn t playing the game any and is just waiting for the exit But Ion t want to end the review on such a bleak note I have seen several interpretations of the efeat from the title Rupert s awakening to the shallow nature of his philosophical musings when confronted with a real life crisis Julius exile from London when his irty eeds are exposed Morgan s inability confronted with a real life crisis Julius exile from London when his irty eeds are exposed Morgan s inability see beyond her own needs Tallis slovenness and incapacity to put either his kitchen or His Emotions In Order emotions in order Murdoch chooses to close the novel with neither of these images she picks the only couple to emerge strengthened and closer to each other from the ordeal Of course our love is selfish Almost all human love is bloody selfish If one has anything to hang onto at all one clings to it relentlessly We ve tried to face it and to suffer it To take refuge in love is an instinct and not a isreputable one. Man tendency to embrace Cinder drama and intrigue and to prefer theistraction of confrontations to the ifficult effort of communicating openly and honestly. A Fairly Honourable Defeat35 starsIris Murdoch s thirteenth novel is a surprisingly uick read espite the fact it s the longest out of the initial thirteen This is probably in part to the fact that a large part of it is Undisputed dialogue and partly because there is a morbidesire to keep reading as events play out I say morbid as the plot is a spiral into which there seems nothing good can happen and leaves you eagerly waiting to see if secrets are revealed and everyone ends up where they Seducing Sam deserveThe novel has the usual slightly claustrophobic small cast and is set in London moving primarily between the rich and comfortable homes of Rupert and Hilda a blissfully happy couple at the beginning of the novel the home of a gay couple Simon Rupert s younger brother and Axel and theecrepit and filthy Reconcilable Differences dwelling of Tallis the erstwhile husband of Hilda s sister Morgan who has just returned from America after aisastrous affair with Rupert s acuaintance It s been a very long time since I read any Iris Murdoch When you ve been much attached to an author in the past there is always the fear that a later reread will reveal you ve grown out of that author and that then you will lose your happy memories Not so here I think too that I am better able to articulate what I like about her I ve been carrying around memories not of my own impressions but rather my impressions of secondary criticism my memories of my impressions of others impressions of Iris Murdoch Specifically I remember if hazily a Martha Nussbaum lecture about her that GENTLEMEN PREFER SLAVES described her books as little clockwork machines the characters wound up and placed into a moralilemma to provide a sort of real world philosophical experiment and investigation into philosophical particulars rather than general principles In a way think this is true but it places too little emphasis on that particularity oh how Sing Out Loud Book II different it is to talk about or think about specific people and specific situations than to provide general principles abstract arguments One of the things I had forgotten was just how calmly and precisely Murdochescribes the people in her books not only their physical attributes but what kinds of things go on in their heads There is a The Little Death, Goldenboy, How Town (Henry Rios detachment in thisescription but I think that it is actually a mistake to therefore assume that The National Forgotten League disinterested euals uninterested The author is not Julius She is curious but she is not cruel I liked too what this book has to say about the value of truth in relationships In this respect Simon and Axel s story is the one that I found the most moving and the most familiar Simon s interior workings seem very real to me a shame about feeling ashamed or insecure to begin with a humiliation about having a problem that stops a person fromoing exactly that thing that would fix the problem a spiral Survival Math down into lies not to hurt the other person but out of a lack of genuine respect for one s self and inability to believe that he could truly genuinely be loved And Axel is not as secure as he seems either his rules about absolute truth are correct and effective but they are not coming from a place of philosophical conviction but rather from aeep seated fear that he has himself I was uite moved to see them end happily and I think the lesson about love relationships and intimacy is uite specifically true I felt like I recognized other characters as well though I had less empathy for them Though the villain in so far as there is one is meant to be Julius I found him far less frightening and horrible than Morgan Perhaps she is upset perhaps she is even ill but the Cream for the Caveman damage that she inflicted seemed somehow so much worse a narcissistic flailing thatestroyed everything in its path and had a frightening randomness that Julius s cruelty lacked I was sorry but not surprised to see her forgiven I m so pleased Iris that you ve held up for all these years The temptation to binge read "EVERYTHING NOW IS HUGE PERHAPS ONE OVER THE SUMMER " now is huge Perhaps one over the summer enough for now This is a tangled web set in the late 60s concerning Rupert and Hilda their 20 year old rop out son Peter Rupert s younger brother Simon and his boyfriend Axel Hilda s unstable younger sister Morgan and her estranged husband Tallis and her former lover and college friend of Rupert and Axel JuliusThings are intertwined from the start but later there are strong echoes of Shakespeare s Midsummer Night s Dream when the Stage Is Set For is set for non magical enchantment leading to illusions of love and betrayal with the metaphorical puppeteer appearing to soothe whilst actually sowing oubts and creating scenarios Although the story is entirely naturalistic rather than magical realism etc there are occasions when some of the characters think they sense supernatural Mistakes (Mistakes, demons or ghosts yet none of them realise the real power that is manipulating their livesIt opens inauspiciously with a long conversation between Rupert and Hilda which explains the back story but which they would not beiscussing in that way between themselves However after that it becomes a trademark Murdoch psychological novel In some ways her protagonists are a little like the British euivalent of Woody Allen s shrink addicted New Yorkers as they endlessly analyse their relationships interconnectedness motives etcThe narrative slips seamlessly between pages of pure Just Say When (Heartbreaker Bay, dialogue toescriptive passages In some of the How to Draw Clifford (Clifford the Big Red Dog) dialogue sections it is not always clear who is saying what but that is actually very effective especially when there is a large gathering with multiple conversations and the reader is effectively eaves hopping between themThe book is slightlyated in places especially early on when Murdoch seems embarrassed about the terminology regarding Simon and Axel liaison association his friend and there are a couple of awkward racial comments but mostly it reads very well and would also be good for a reading group though probably too unfashionable to be picked unless it rose to prominence on the back of a film You could spend ages merely on Both you and X are wounded people X is the wounded because X is the guilty and for that reason is probably the proud And Good is Royal Heirs Required (The Sherdana Royals, dull What novelist ever succeeded in making a good man interesting Fortunately this novelevotes plenty of pages to those who are not goodI Let there be Gwar d love to read another book about Julius so this one must have been excellent So my reviewisappeared That s been happening to a lot of friends lately but this is the first time I m certain it s happened to one of mineDespite being populated only by a host of white London luvvies this is my favourite to one of mineDespite being populated only by a host of white London luvvies this is my favourite by far It s clever beautifully written and Simon is to Doctor Who die forAll I ll repeat from my review is DO NOT read the introduction by Philip Henscher before reading this novel It s a complete spoiler zone Read it afterwards though it s almost as good as the book This paragraph at the beginning of the novel after the first few lines ofialogue captures why I love Iris Murdoch so much Hilda and Rupert Foster celebrating their 20th wedding anniversary with a bottle of rather I Cant Think Straight dry champagne were sitting in the evening sun in the garden of their house in Priory Grove London SW10 Hilda a plumper angel now reclined limply exhibiting shiny burnished knees below a short shriftress of orangey yellow Her feet were bare Her undulating Cease Upon the Midnight dark hair showed some needle thin lines of grey Her burly boyish faced husband whom she had at last persuaded to stop wearing shorts sat open shirted cooking in the sun He was red hoping later to be brown There is no one like her in all of literature I first read this book in graduate school in the 70 s and I ve re read it several times over the years It may or may no. In aark comedy of errors Iris Murdoch portrays the mischief wrought by Julius a cynical intellectual who The Pacific War Companion decides toemonstrate through a Machiavelli. T be one of the best books I ve ever read but in some ways it is probably the most powerfulFor many years it was the only Murdoch book I read but over the past five years I ve picked up others and that altered my reading experience this time I still felt the chilly read of what the characters were going to encounter next but I was also hit over the head with Murdoch s philosophy in the same way that I id reading Ayn Rand s Atlas Shrugged okay okay I get itThis awareness idn t Special Hell, a Hb diminish my interest in this novel or Murdoch s writing but it made me think about how present her voice and her personality are in the book It chills me to consider her cynicism and contempt for people but also intrigues me that in addition to the frightening amoral personalities she creates there is also a seeker and a hopeful belief that love conuers all I haven tecided whether it would have been fascinating or frightening to sit Counting By 7s down toinner with Iris Murdoch at her peak but I am confident it woul have been memorable I read Iris Murdoch and then I wonder why I ever read anything else Brilliant characters fabulous set pieces It should be an opera The Occult America dialogue the philosophy and the plot can be a bit clunky but everything is forgiven because it is soramatic and the characters so charmingI ve Liar, Temptress, Soldier, Spy decided that with Iris Murdoch I know I m going to love it when a it is set in London and or b I have to write my own list of characters inside the front cover to keep a track of everyone Your letters weren t terribly informative actually They moved from the curt to the enigmatic to the frantic And take eating if you re lucky enough too any Stuffing pieces of Doctor Narendranin Vinoda Vazhakku dead animals into a hole in your face Then munch munch munch If there s anybody watching they must beying of laughter as if his mouth were a sea anemone trying to turn itself inside out Well why Jazz don t you treat yourself to a shave if it comes to that You look like something growing on the side of a tree trunk The sort of thing you can t resist scraping off with your foot and then wish you hadn t It s so gorgeously untidy like London Exactly I love the village life of Rome Those innumerable little suares And the fountains And the white statues among the trees And the ancient pillars built into Renaissance walks And the neon lights at night on tawny coloured houses And the naked boys bathing in the Tiber Ah the naked boys bathing in the Tiber This could go on forever thought Simon I couldn t live like that Like what Without a false picture of yourself No In cynicism Why use that nasty word Let us say a sensible acceptance of the second rate I won t accept the second rate If you stay in the same house as yourself you may have to How could herreamy converse with Rupert have occasioned have caused this terrible violence It was like the humming of a song causing an aeroplane crashHe remembered Morgan s jokey self consciousness about her wedding ring and the peculiar shy ache of his pleasure when she Innumeracy displayed it OK it s not really the great novel it sets out to be but it s very entertaining Julius King is one of my all time favorite bad guys Go Julius Destroy that relationship Drive that man to madness andespair Cut up that A Scream Goes Through the House dress Do the washing up Sort of a high brow Hannibal Lecter lite as it were Though I was rather shocked toiscover the explanation for his lack of affectHere s the bit I liked best The woman is very taken with him and hangs on his every word He tells her that Turner is rubbish no talent at all She uncritically believes him Then a bit later she visits the National Gallery and is elighted when she now experiences the Turners as amateurish and poorRuining someone s ability to appreciate Turner just for fun Now that s a creative portrayal of evil I have enjoyed this book a lot I have found it humorous Never was I bored From the start to the finish my head was busy The story focuses on character portrayal rather than plot Events circle around nine characters Only nine there are no subsidiary figures We start with a husband and wife Rupert and Hilda Foster It is their twentieth wedding anniversary They have a solid marriage They have a son named Peter He is at Cambridge Into the picture is rawn Hilda s younger sister at Cambridge Into the picture is Zami drawn Hilda s younger sister Browne Morgan s jilted husband Tallis Browne and Tallis elderly father named Leonard He has an ache is it arthritis Two family members left to be mentioned are Rupert s younger homosexual brother Simon Foster and his partner Axel Nilsson One character remains He is not part of the family Let s call him theisturbing outside element He is a biochemist named Julius King These are the nine characters All nine live in the world of academia university lecturers and a student writers and authors a scientist individuals concerned with the arts and esign philosophy literature semantics philology Conversations revolve around philosophizing and theorizing at times leaning towards the esoteric All are well to o One s attention is rawn to understanding each of the esoteric All are well to o One s attention is rawn to understanding each of nine their personalities and the complicated relationships existing between them No relationship is simple or straightforward Each character has opinions about the others It is up to the reader to figure out what is true and what is not The focus is on how each behaves and why they behave as they o What are the underlying motivations One observes a split between elegant philosophical reasoning and realityOne can uestion if plot events are realistic Could would what happens here occur In the given situations that arise what the characters say and The Light is the Darkness do seem reasonable natural feasible The conseuences turn outisastrous How A Map to the Next World did this happen you ask And yet as a whole that which unrolls seems unbelievable This you find yourself thinking about too One element of the story Iid not like view spoilerthat Julius had uring the war been incarcerated at the concentration camp Bergen Belsen This is thrown in at the very end Is it meant as an explanation for his bizarre behavior If this is what is implied it is not adeuately eveloped hide spoiler Relationships It s ComplicatedTallis loves Morgan but Morgan loves Julius Julius woos Simon but Simon loves Axel Hilda loves Rupert but Rupert covets Morgan Julius wants Hilda but Hilda loves Peter Peter loves Morgan but Morgan loves Rupert Leonard loves nobody because he s an old grinch and the exception to the rule of musical chairs Yuyu Hakusho : Le Gardien des mes, tome 6 deployed by Murdoch here in her study of love morality and fidelity If the tune sounds familiar it s because I ve spent half an hour on Google trying to identify a song that I kept humming back in the 80 s Turns up it s by a band named Chilly Joey wants Penny but Penny loves Bo Bo isn t ready cos he s havin fun Playin with many is better than none Johnny loves Jenny but Jenny loves Joe I used to love Iris Murdoch but after the rather ponderous andeprimant Dream of Bruno I took a break that turned to last two Crum decades Now I m back and I m glad to report that her books can be not onlyeep philosophical and provocative but also a lot of fun Rambunctious is not A Ualifier That I Had ualifier that I had to use before but it Heathen Days describes accurately the madcap permutations in the affections of the close knit group of friends and relatives at the center of this story To borrow a title from my next review the book could aptly be named The Disorderly Lovers a commedy of manners that could only be set in England where appearances stiff upper lips and repressed sexuality trump sincerity and trust You are preserving yourignity by refusing to show your feelings But there are moments when love ought to be undignified extravagant even violent says Rupert at. An experiment how easily loving couples caring friends and evoted siblings can betray their loyalties As puppet master Julius artfully plays on the hu. .